our dc coming up this weekend, i hated them and the only thing that kept me going ,was the reward of booze at the end of each day.my then wife,zelous judgemental pioneer, you know the type,not only droned on about my drinking, but about everyones drinking, a real barrel of laughs not.
anyway, one year we went to another dc, in newcastle, all seemed to be going well, until lunch.we went over to a hotel for lunch,i ordered my fresh orange and food, a few minutes later, the local jw,s arrived for lunch, they had all pr-ordered drinks,alcoholic drinks, and not one drink but many !!!
they were buisy getting boozed up for the afternoon session,way to go, i was about to join them, when my wife told me " dont even think about it ", anyway she was outraged, but there they were ,with thier little convention badges, men and women, young and old, getting merry, they dont even do that here in scotland, !!!.
Back in the 70's & 80's I used to attend the London Twickenham Stadium assemblies. We often had hot sunny weather. A small group of us young blades, along with some crumpet, would always slip away at lunch time, to a nearby pub for a couple of beers. The British JW's are not as alcohol adverse as Americans.
The end was due at any moment and not being sure we would be spared, we didn't want to face death sober. Wonderful days!
i find the board is getting very unfriendly of late.
used to be great to be aboard.
but the snipping that so many.
The forum is quiet lately as many long term posters have moved on. Hillary step was a hoot but hard on fools. Looking back to those day there were some very robust debates with a lot of mud slinging. They were informative, funny and entertaining.
People that come here asking for help are shown empathy and kindness. People that try to pick a fight get slapped down. People that join accidentlly get laughed at. Seems about right to me.
The way to change the flavour of a forum, is to stay and show by example how we think people should be treated. Leaving achieves nothing and is never constructive.
...and its pretty cool.
took me four hours to take the grapes off the stems.
had about 25 lbs from my vine (white grapes).
Make sure that the alcohol doesn't get too strong and kill the yeast before it has used up the sugar.
watchtower 15th jan 1958 page 62 qfr.. why, after receiving from god the express command to multiply and fill the earth, did adam and eve refrain from carrying out this procreation mandate while they were perfect in the garden of eden?.
asking this question concerning adam and eve is like trying to meddle in the private affairs of a christian married couple today, and asking why they have had no children as yet.
jehovah god set no definite time for adam and eve to begin having perfect children to fill the earth.
The only human Adam had ever met was made from his rib. He logically assumed that to fill the world and subdue it would use up all his ribs and more besides. How could he know that there was a more pleasurable way to bring forth human offspring?
He probably thought that intercourse referred to the invasive method used to extract his rib. There he was with a perfect naked woman and not clue what to do. Reminds me of my first time!
... with pregnant hillbilly bitches over trespassing pit bulls who terrify my grandson are not that fun.
god - where do all the idiots come from?.
jeff .
I suggest a trident and a net. To the death!
You have my sympathy Jeff. This must be a worry and a stress for you.
she says she can prove i will die if i'm not in the "truth" strictly using the bible .
leavingwt & PSacramento have spoken the truth.
We all die. It is Caesars will!
okay, i got back on the 'net partly so i could be back in touch with you folks, b/c i've been so isolated for the past while ,,, so here goes!.
i just got the news monday, and damn!!
my foot is a mess,,, bursitis .. yech, painful, and the doctors have been ignoring me/telling me i'm making it up for 18 mos.
Talesin - We all have times when we are low and have problems of one kind or another.
You will have better days. Hang on in there.
my brother who attends meetings was at the hall when they were explaining the "generation" new lite.. he said he was stunned when a rumble went through the congo which he said sounded like "oh here we go again" and then laughing.. the brother sittig next to him said 'what next" and after the meeting a lot of people were mad that instead of leaving what they do not know they re-invented it.. elders were being surrounded by people asking them to explain it.. this happened a few weeks ago but there is also alot of anger at the "mentally diseased " comment made by the gb as people view it as an outright attack on family members.
i think i smell trouble.. he is not one who shuns and told the elders that until they show him where jesus said shun then he will continue to talk to me.. one elder told him that if he persists in talking to me then he could be brought before a committe to which he told him "it would be your funeral".
so me thinks they are truly in a panic!.
The last generation of Governing Body have passed away and the generation of Governing Body before them.
The Governing Body are just a group of old men who are guessing and making it up as they go along. The rank and file member is sick of the bluff and deception.
The Generation Game is over.
i ask this question because it goes to:.
- how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.
- how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.
God and Jesus as names are of no importance to me but they represent the search for truth and meaning in our lives. Although they fail to inspire me personally, that does not mean I have abandoned my spiritual journey.
We all seek more than the obvious reality of being alive while waiting to die. Whether more exists is what our search seeks to discover. It may well end in failure but it keeps us occupied and gives us hope. That may well be all we need.
i'll start off.. i don't believe anything is divine about bible writings.
i believe there may be some marginal history although not much.
i think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the old testament.
The Bible is a very important book. American and European culture have for centuries been based on the Bible.
As a young man I could quote it chapter and verse and find any scripture in seconds. To hold a Bible in my hand was to hold Truth and Life. It still holds enough influence for the great Terry to start a thread asking who believes it :)
Now I see the Bible as a 66 part collection of folklore, myth, conjecture, poetry and deliberate fraud, with the word HOLY stamped on the front. If there is a God he will be weeping!
